Debunking ESG Myths Episode 5

Debunking ESG Myths EP. 05 – More than just a “fad”: Translating obsession into action

In this episode, Sue Bonney, former head of ESG at KPMG, reveals the real meaning behind the corporate obsession with ESG. From transparent reporting to holistic integration, they explore the myths surrounding ESG and its impact on business growth, challenging conventional wisdom with data-driven insights. Tune in for a fresh perspective on sustainability and actionable strategies for organizations navigating the ESG landscape.


00:00 | Is the ESG obsession just to stay ahead of regulators?

05:57 | ESG in the long-term scenario

09:41 | Are companies obsessed with ESG to avoid risks & penalties?

11:10 | How can you use ESG to unlock growth?

13:58 | How to convince clients that ESG means growth

17:39 | ESG is both a blessing and a curse

20:28 | How to address transparency

25:15 | Take control of ESG, don’t let it control you

29:43 | Closing


Sue Bonney is the former Vice Chair and Head of ESG at KPMG UK. She worked at KPMG for 37 years, during which time she was pioneering in her quest to put responsible business at the heart of a fairer and more sustainable world. She was also governor of a high school from 2013 to 2018, including three years as Chair, and has been a non-executive director of The Forward Institute, a non-profit Institute focused on responsible leadership through organization and systems change, for nearly eight years.

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Ravi Chidambaram is the Founder and President of TC Capital, a pan-Asian boutique investment bank based in Singapore that specializes in M&A advisory and growth capital transactions in Asia. It is recognized and awarded as one of the best independent investment banks in the region. He is also Executive Director and Co-founder of Rimm, a SAAS-driven sustainability management platform, that helps companies and fund managers improve their sustainability reporting and performance.  He has been active in sustainability for many years, as an Adjunct Professor in Sustainability at Yale-NUS College and also a board member and investor in several impact ventures.

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Rimm, which stands for “Real Impact Matters Most” provides an intuitive yet comprehensive SaaS platform that provides all companies, whether big or small, with intelligent tools for highly accessible and impactful sustainability management, reporting and optimization. Created and led by experts, the platform revolves around inclusivity and accessibility, focusing on unlocking an open world where sustainability is no longer elusive to the people.

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Welcome to Debunking ESG Myths, a podcast where we debunk, demystify and deconstruct some key ESG preconceptions with unfiltered knowledge and data from key experts in the field. I’m Ravi Chidambaram, the CEO and founder of Rimm Sustainability. We’re an impact-driven SaaS company that advocates making sustainability accessible and actionable to all.

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